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Occasional Lurker said :-
Thanks Ren, I do like different, or "quirky", as some have remarked. Being "one of the herd" hasn't been a trait used to describe me. I'm sure you've noticed that, after seeing my two steeds ... But wait..! I have another..!!
Yes, I've treated myself to something easier to move around the car-port/garage/patio, and throw around The Trough of Bowland at a pace a tad more "sprightly" than the Shadow Aero ... Cheap to buy...(Ren kinda price), A trade sale, no warranty given or implied, cheap to tax, hopefully cheap to insure. Not many about.A 2007 American market CB250 Nighthawk .... Powered by an engine, grown from the blueprints of the old CD200 Benly ...OOOH..!! I think I hear the sound of Ren's chair falling backwards, as he leaps up in excitement ... Remarkably similar to the CMX 250 Rebel ... They share the same Haynes manual ... I've just taken delivery a week ago, and am in the process of "licking it into shape" .... It has had a little neglect, and some hidden "butchery" visited upon it, but work is in progress ...
I,ll send a picture to your phone, and let you see for yourself... I,m rubbish at that kind of stuff.!! AND..! you know where I live.... You are most welcome to call by and have a look-see ... Regards, Tony 93606
24/06/2025 17:32:04 UTC
Glyn said :-
Now occasional lurker you have done very well to find that machine. I have to admit that at £2850 it did make me cough a little. There’s a black one on EBay for £1999 which may be a better bet but I’ve never bought anything other than a “project bargain”. However, it has now spurred me on to track down the owner of that CMX125 that can only be described as a “hedge find”. It is not far from my home and I do keep an eye on it whilst partaking in my daily walks around the village. I understand that the barrels and heads from a 250 are all that are required to up the HP of the 125 but am not sure. This is probably knowledge that Ren holds in his encyclopaedic mind on the Honda marques. That is only if the fall backwards from his chair did not seriously damage the aforementioned mind. Congratulations on the Bentley derivative purchase.
24/06/2025 20:41:31 UTC
Ren - The Ed¹ said :-
This is the CB250 "NightHawk". I... am not convinced by the "NightHawk" sticker on the side Occasional Lurker... This looks to me like the UK version CB "Two-Fifty" with a nighthawk sticker. I suspect the difference was only the name anyhow.
Anyhoo this is the image Occasional Lurker sent.
24/06/2025 21:15:50 UTC
Ren - The Ed¹ said :-
Hmmmm... the UK spec bikes (MCX250, CB Two-Fifty) had disc brakes as the front, yours does not. And Hmmmmm.
As for upgrading the CMX125 Rebel to a CMX250 with barrels and pistons? I am a man of much (useless) knowledge but I don't know the answer to that. I do know that Occasional Lurker's NightHawk engine will drop straight in though Glyn... you wanna me send his address an' you send da boys round?
24/06/2025 21:19:28 UTC
Ren - The Ed¹ said :-
I'm beginning to think the UK spec Two-Fifty also had mag wheels...
24/06/2025 21:21:04 UTC
Occasional Lurker said :-
Thank you for your kind comments gentlemen ... And thank you Ren for magically moving the picture from my phone to your site... It is as I said, an American import ... Originally made and sold in the US in 2007. Imported into the UK in September 2023... All backed up by His Majesty's GOV.MOT history site .... In the good old US of A, they had spoked wheels, chrome rims, and drum brakes front and rear, amber reflectors to the sides,and the best "giveaway" of an American market bike... the speedometer face has the speed rising in increments of 5 mph .... ie, 5mph 15mph 25mph 35mph and on to an optimistic 85mph. The tyre information sticker clearly states "Tire" Information, and the exhaust pipes are stamped with information clearly stating that they are fully in accordance with Federal Law ...
I don't think I've bought something "cobbled together", or a collection of mis-matched parts...There's even a dealer sticker from "Colorado Springs" ...
All this, and the fact that it is left-hand drive makes me think it is most certainly legitimate ... Currently, it is sorned. I hope to make it road legal in the first days of next month... I will gladly let you know of my impressions of it's manners on UK roads... Regards, Tony
24/06/2025 22:51:43 UTC
Upt'North ¹ said :-
Nice, very nice Lurcio.
Higher bars too I would think, the yanks like their high bars.
Honda used to make decent looking bikes, then the world changed.
Keep us posted at the Forum.
Upt.
25/06/2025 09:27:23 UTC
Ren - The Ed¹ said :-
Of course yes! The CB250 NightHawk will be left hand drive. Oh no - what you going to do Occasional Lurker? Do you think it's worth converting it to right hand drive? I mean it's a big job especially on a motorcycle.
OK OK so it's a Yank model...
25/06/2025 10:59:48 UTC
Snod said :-
It is indeed an MC24 Nighthawk, the MC26 Two Fifty had cast Grimeca wheels and the front disc brake, and different ratios in the gearbox. Oh and a tacho instead of just some lights.
Glyn, I'm pretty sure you cannot fit the 250 barrels on the 125 cases without enlarging the holes for the liners to fit. The 125 also has a shorter stroke..
That Rebel is interesting, I don't recognise that clutch cover from anywhere!
26/06/2025 00:37:56 UTC
Ren - The Ed¹ said :-
Thank you Snod! Golly I thought I was a Honda nerd but you've well and truly out-nerded me there.
26/06/2025 10:54:21 UTC
Glyn said :-
First quick ride on the Yamaha TZR can be seen here. Turn the volume down Ren and it’s much better.
https://youtu.be/odrqv7gzcOE
01/07/2025 17:46:30 UTC
Ren - The Ed¹ said :-
I always knew you lived in a mansion in the countryside Glyn. Much better with the sound down, thanks.
01/07/2025 19:52:58 UTC
nab301 said :-
Sounds good Glyn, although would be much nicer near the redline!
Nigel
03/07/2025 16:26:20 UTC
Glyn said :-
We sailed through the MOT today without any advisories. That is with the TZR and so I'm off to the two stroke day at Sammy Miller's tomorrow. Naturally, I've packed as many tools as I can and am expecting to have to use them if this thing is as reliable as their hyped up (down) to be. Perhaps I can find a buyer there as I'm of a nervious disposition and am not happy to tempt fate with a long ownership. I was offered a Yamaha RD500 (Resto project) today.... good grief, the Ed would go nuts.
05/07/2025 18:02:21 UTC
Glyn said :-
Oh Ed, you’d have loved 2stroke day at Sammy’s Miller’s. There were a huge amount of smokers there from a very old Monet Goyon single cylinder twin exhaust port jobbie that was older than anyone there (including Sammy himself), up to the latest 2023 Langen (a snip at £37k). I arrived with the only TZR 250 and was surprised by the amount of photos taken of it. Here’s a picture of it next to a Suzuki GT750 triple ( known as a kettle), a TDR 250 and a Greeves at the rear.
07/07/2025 18:28:33 UTC
Ren - The Ed¹ said :-
Oh my goodness I had thankfully forgotten all about that! Phew that was a close escape I'm sure.
I'm pleased to hear you had a great day and the TZR was a popular star of the show. I'm familiar with the TDR which can trace it's heritage to your TZR, and I know why Kettles are called Kettles. However I feel no need whatsoever to hear ring-a-ding, smell burnt 2 stroke or listen to endless talk of power bands and decoking the top end.
Sharon and I covered 150 miles in the terrible rain and thunderstorms yesterday, today being dry and warm we have not turned a wheel. We're not quite right in the head I'm sure.
07/07/2025 21:46:52 UTC
Upt'North ¹ said :-
Glyn, she looks blummin lovely.
As does the black GT750 (A/B?) which looks like it's running expansions. Nice.
Upt.
07/07/2025 23:15:18 UTC
ROD¹ said :-
Looking fantastic Glyn,
I was looking forward to clouds of smoke for Ren's benefit.
Ren from your travel information (70 miles from Sammy Miller's and a 150 mile ride) I am guessing you are near the Cotswolds.
08/07/2025 09:31:34 UTC
nab301 said :-
Glyn , hopefully someone appreciates all the work you put into the TZR.
Nigel
08/07/2025 12:01:57 UTC
Ren - The Ed¹ said :-
ROD - erm yes but no but... We've been to see father on the south coast near Worthing. But we'd broken the trip into 2 days hence only 150 miles. But we're on our way back now and not a squillion miles from the Cotswolds.
It'll all become clear in another exciting tale soon.
08/07/2025 21:43:44 UTC
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