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Ren - The Ed said :-
Now you go steady Jim!! I've ridden one of them there electric chairs and they are FAST FAST FAST! Check out the link below.

Well now you've mastered corners you do realise you now have to learn how to wheelie? REAL bikers should be able to wheelie for 1 mile at speeds of over 100mph.

I once did a wheelie, quite unintentionally. I travelled for half a mile with my front wheel flailing around, I was practically vertical. When I asked my mate what he saw he said "yeah! you must have had the front wheel like 2, maybe 3cm off the tarmac for almost a metre!"


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25/09/2018 07:45:25 UTC
David said :-
I managed to pull a wheelie on the day I bought my first bike, a Kawasaki Z250SL. I had my mate on the back who had come with to see the bike (he has more experience) and when we we're at the traffic light 2 guys on a MT-08 stopped next to us. OFCOURSE in my new excitement I revved the engine a bit, quickly being droned out by his beautiful sounding engine. So when the lights turned green I sped off, accidentally lifting the wheel for about 15 meters according to my friend, he also said it was most likely that the wheel was about 30 CM off the ground, according to his feeling the tarmac only a bit behind him...
26/09/2018 14:00:18 UTC
Ren - The Ed said :-
Imagine if it'd gone wrong David! You're Z250SL wouldn't have been quite so shiny and new.

I have a lot of admiration for genuine stunt riders and their amazing abilities. I never had the skills or the guts (or the spare cash) to learn such antics. This is all well and good in safe closed areas but I often see admiration of people doing it out on the streets.

I've often pondered whether or not professional stunt riders encourage buffoons to copy their antics on the streets. I'm sure for some they do. But then Rossi and Marquez also encourage riders to ride fast on the streets. Hamilton, does he encourage fast drivers? Colin McCrae, he spawned a generation of Scooby-Doo modifications and fast street cars?

There's a time and a place for everything I guess. And there will always be someone who doesn't understand or doesn't want to understand that.
26/09/2018 19:20:40 UTC
Jim said :-
Questions, questions.......

My CBF125 came to me fitted with an aftermarket stainless steel and faux carbon fibre go-faster silencer. This appears to be somewhat ineffective, in that it goes no faster, and it certainly isn’t silent. I went out before first light this morning and pushed it round the corner before riding away, out of consideration for the neighbours on a Sunday morning. (The people in the next street weren’t so lucky, of course) I have the offer of a newish standard exhaust - should I fit it? When I bought the bike the previous owner talked about “loud pipes save lives”, but to be honest I’m getting bored with riding around with what amounts to a bugle attached to the barrel.

What do you think?

Cheers, Jim
30/09/2018 07:25:35 UTC
Ian Soady said :-
The "loud pipes save lives" mantra is as you suggest complete tosh. And as you say that sort of setup irritates and alienates people.

From a functional point of view, motorcycle designers actually spend some time ensuring that the complete exhaust system is appropriate for the design of the engine and carburation - especially the carburettor jetting / fuel injection settings. You often find that a noisy silencer upsets that and often gives a weak mixture resulting, if you're unlucky, in a holed piston. And often the performance improves little if at all as you've discovered. Quite apart from that, riding any distance with a very loud exhaust is tiring and can end up causing tinnitus and other hearing problems.

I'd go for the standard setup.
30/09/2018 09:02:34 UTC
Ren - The Ed said :-
Fit the standard pipe!

Unless you're 17 and trying to impress your male friends (I doubt young ladies are actually impressed) then a loud pipe is just a pain in the derrière. Having to go around the corner to start the bike is annoying. Like Ian said it will have messed up Honda's careful settings. As Ian said anything more than a trip to the local shop is draining.

When I were a lad I fitted "shotgun" silencers to my CB250T. I was 10 men, I was the dude, I was the man. For a couple of hours. I was also despatch riding back then and after a ride to Chester and back along the motorway I could not get home soon enough to refit my Motad silencer.

I believe good road position, sensible speeds and keeping your eyes open will save more lives than a loud pipe.
30/09/2018 16:39:19 UTC
David said :-
I cannot count the amount of times I've been cut off violently...
04/10/2018 11:29:40 UTC
Jim said :-
Thanks for the advice folks - I’ll fit the standard exhaust. However, that’s proved easier said than done, in that the offending article refuses to part company with the bike. The two nuts came off the studs easily, but I cannot get the pipe out of the barrel. Picture below. It looks like it ought to just fall out. Any idea as? Thanks.


04/10/2018 16:10:36 UTC
Jim said :-
Ended up taking courage in both hands and giving the stainless steel pipe a few sharp smacks with a rubber mallet. A few twists later and hey presto - we’re off to the races. What a difference the standard system makes - the bike idles properly, has a little more grunt at low revs and I’m no longer heading for an ASBO.
05/10/2018 05:13:40 UTC
Ren - The Ed said :-
A little brute force goes a long way Jim. I'll add a link to my exhaust change blog...

While the standard exhaust is as you've found a lot quieter and the bike is running better...it is mild steel. Mine rusted around he collar that holds the pipe into the head. Can I suggest buying a tin of heat proof paint and painting the studs, nuts and collar? It won't stay on too long and it won't STOP the rust but regular application will certainly slow the process greatly. My pipe lasted about 8 years and 70-odd thousand miles so it's not going to fall apart quickly on you.

Enjoy you're peace. Mine still sounds like a little sewing machine. It's so pleasant just sauntering gently down a quiet country lane with a genteel thrum and soaking in the views rather than being deafened.

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05/10/2018 08:56:07 UTC
Ian Soady said :-
Rather than painting, I'd use copaslip on the studs and replace the nuts with stainless (they'll be a standard metric size so should be available from your local screwfix etc).
06/10/2018 09:19:32 UTC
Ren - The Ed said :-
Yes good call on the stainless nuts. Cheap as chips if you have a local industrial fixings place (there's a cracker in Chorley near me). Then I'd go for stainless nuts and paint...
07/10/2018 08:27:25 UTC
Ren - The Ed said :-
Oh and size = M8 standard thread.
07/10/2018 08:28:54 UTC
Jim said :-
Thanks for the advice folks. I’ve used very high temp matt black on the exhaust, and stainless steel flange nuts. Stuck with Copaslip for the studs for now - I’ll keep an eye on it and maybe replace with paint if that doesn’t keep things neat.

Feeling rather pleased this morning I set off for a run in the rain for the first time - ended up crossing over the old Forth Road Bridge in some brisk winds and wound up at the Bikers Cove Cafe right under the South end of the rail bridge at South Queensferry. Felt a bit odd parking my CBF125 amongst the various Harley’s and custom trikes, but had a nice cup of tea and headed back over the bridge. 75 miles in mostly light rain and 25 mph winds safely negotiated. Found that when riding into the wind 5th gear was a waste of time, my considerable bulk and girth combining to act as an anchor / sail resulting in a max speed of 45mph! Still, it really wasn’t much of a day for going fast - steady as she goes got me home without incident, pretty much the main thing for me at the moment.
07/10/2018 15:37:01 UTC
Ren - The Ed said :-
Don't take much girth to slow a CBF125 down into a headwind. I've had several occasions where the wind has brought me down to 45mph...and less.

Sounds like a jolly day out Jim
07/10/2018 19:03:28 UTC
Jim said :-
Milestones...

The CBF125 completed its first 1000 miles under me today. And as of today I’m now the proud owner of a theory test pass certificate. Seems like a good point to reflect on the last 6 weeks or so in the life of this new biker.

I had always hankered after a motorbike, right from my early teens, but had always listened to that inner doubt voice. Finally I’d got to the age of 53 and decided that if I didn’t do it now, I probably never would. So far it’s been an extremely positive experience. I’ve really enjoyed challenging myself to get everything as close to perfect as I can (clearly that’s not very close yet, but it’s improving). Tinkering around with the bike has also been fun. Best bit of all has been the number of new conversations I’ve had, including with the patrons of this forum.

The CBF125 is a brilliant wee machine, but I’m really feeling the need to get started on something a little bigger. I can hear the poor thing groaning ‘get off me, Fatso’, every time terrain or the wind works against us. Feels like it’s time to book up for a DAS course!




16/10/2018 22:20:23 UTC
Ren - The Ed said :-
Aww that made me smile Jim.

A whole 1,000 miles huh! That little 125 isn't even fully run in yet. It'll loosen up a little more in the next 1,000 miles but no, it's never going to whisk you off at 100mph into the far blue yonder.

Take your time with the training, I hope it's an enjoyable experience not a traumatic one. I used to be an instructor and a lot of customers who were only riding purely for pleasure still put an awful lot of pressure on themselves to pass first time and to be perfect. Keep us informed with how it all goes. Oh - and while winter can be cold, wet and miserable it can be a good time for training and tests because the schools and test centres are quieter.

Cheers Jim!
17/10/2018 07:39:59 UTC
Jim said :-
Thanks for the reply, Ren. You're right about the winter lessons - my local centre is advertising a 22 hour DAS course for £449 right now - and for an extra £75 they'll give you a 'Guaranteed' option, where they'll give you more lessons and loan you the bike for up to three further attempts if you don't pass first time. Tempting....
17/10/2018 10:48:51 UTC
Rod said :-
Well done on passing your theory test Jim.
It sounds like you are enjoying your motorcycling experience.

I believe that this time of year is the most dangerous for new riders. Everyone knows how slippery the roads can be in the winter, with the snow and ice, and ride accordingly. This time of year the danger comes from wet leaves which are blown by the wind and accumulate on bends. You can be riding on dry roads and arrive at a corner to find wet leaves which have held their moisture in the shade, these leaves can be very slippery.

You have found the limitations of the 125!
Try not to hold the 125 at full throttle when it is struggling into the wind or up hills. Use a lower gear and roll of the throttle a little to maintain progress, this will be kinder on the engine.
18/10/2018 18:17:02 UTC
Jim said :-
Thanks for the good advice Rod. I’ve been very conscious of leaves on the roads at the moment, mostly they’ve been dry and moving around in the wind, I’ll be looking for accumulations at corners now. We’ve got mud all over the roads here in Fife at the moment, farmers are exercising their tractors just now. It’s mostly dry, but in places, esp. at field gates it’s thick and rutted. More traps for the unwary :-(
19/10/2018 07:25:42 UTC
 

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