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Ian Soady said :-
I know you've barely been able to sleep worrying about whether the Arrow actually goes - it does. See below. ...
13/08/2017 13:54:15 UTC
Ren - The Ed said :-
MP - As Sharon asked in another post - Have you passed your motorcycle test? What country are you in because here in the UK you cannot ride a 250 until you've passed your motorcycle test. If it's legal in your country then personally I'd go for the Z250SL. It's better value for money.
14/08/2017 16:16:52 UTC
Ren - The Ed said :-
It certainly does Ian! While the noise offends my ears and it seems the sensible cat too, it definitely runs. I know you're a tall chap but it looks rather too small for you, you look somewhat perched rather than sat.
14/08/2017 16:20:20 UTC
MP said :-
i am i get my bike licence but i have car licence 20 years now.i have changed 8 cars( 5 over 150 hp ) until now.i want to drive a bike just for fun in the city.i don't want the bike for speed just for fun.
15/08/2017 00:41:24 UTC
MP said :-
i want to start with the mt 125 (15 hp) but all my friends tells me to go with the kawasaki ( 28 ps) because after a short time i will get borred with kawasaki friendly for first bike ? only among these 2 bikes i want to buy.
15/08/2017 01:01:45 UTC
Ren - The Ed said :-
MP - I have been riding motorcycles for 27 years and I currently own a very worn out CBF125. I also have a larger motorcycle but I still enjoy every ride on the 125.

It's a matter of your character. Do you want to be fast in which case the 250 will be faster. Do you want to save fuel in which case the 125 will be better. There are many reasons to choose a motorcycle.

The 125 will be easier to learn on than the 250 simply because there is less power - but the difference is minimal really. They're both great bikes.
15/08/2017 09:25:25 UTC
Ian Soady said :-
"you look somewhat perched rather than sat. "

True. It is a little bike, and as you say I'm a big chap, which is one reason I'm probably unlikely to follow you down the 125 route.

It is surprisingly nippy (until the fuel filter clogged with rubbish from the tank) and the handling is really good - at least up to the 50 or so I achieved. Brakes nowhere near as bad as I'd been told although the front is not up to the standard I would really like.

It's actually a very enjoyable bike to ride. And the fact it frightens cats can only be a bonus!
15/08/2017 10:06:33 UTC
MP said :-
thanks for your replay all. i think you propose the greece the price with abs is 400 euro less than the yamaha.what do you think off this not about the cost.first of all i want good driving bevavior ,stable bike and brakes.
15/08/2017 12:02:20 UTC
Sharon said :-

I can not speak about the MT125 as I have never ridden one. I can tell you as I own a Kawasaki Z250SL that it is a fantastic bike. Read my review on it on this website.

However for me personally I was glad I spent time on my 125 cc when first learning. It is best to build confidence slowly rather than risk putting yourself off on too big a bike too soon. That said the 250 is not a beast but it is a lot faster than my 125 and less forgiving of mistakes.

The MTs get brilliant reviews too so both are great bikes. It really is up to you I am afraid to choose between them. Good luck and let us know which one you bought in the end.
15/08/2017 12:38:08 UTC
MP said :-
you are right on this point.i will take my licence and i will wait two more months until late september because the is no stock of the mt in my country.if they import ok i will take the mt or else i will take the z.i don't like to look for other 125 i think is the best looking at 125.thank you all for the reply.
15/08/2017 12:58:50 UTC
Ian Soady said :-
Have a go if you think you're hard enough.......

The ACU National Rally is a test of navigation, riding and endurance. It consists of riding up to 540 miles in 24 hours, visiting a series of predefined checkpoints. The aim is to visit the maximum number of checkpoints within the selected mileage (see link below for details). The website isn't terribly informative however.

Back in the 1990s when I were but a lad (about the same age as Ren is now) I entered the ACU National Rally for 5 consecutive years, gaining a Special Gold on 3 occasions and a Gold on the other 2. Riding a 20+ year old Norton Commando. One of those years it rained continuously from the moment I left my front door till I returned the next day.....

I believe entries open in January, so put it in your diaries.
15/08/2017 14:49:07 UTC
Ian Soady said :-
Missed the link. ...
15/08/2017 15:27:58 UTC
Borsuk said :-
The National Road rally sounds fun. God's, Rota's and DVLA examiners permitting I will have a try at it next year.

15/08/2017 17:18:18 UTC
Ren - The Ed said :-
Hmmmmm...540 miles on a 125. Can I do it in winter? Summer's just too easy.
18/08/2017 06:59:09 UTC
Ian Soady said :-
You (notice I didn't say we) could have a BAT team.......
18/08/2017 10:22:50 UTC
Ian Soady said :-
"Hmmmmm...540 miles on a 125. Can I do it in winter? Summer's just too easy. "

Well. There's the Dragon to start with:

And then of course the Elephant:

Or if you're really serious:

18/08/2017 12:05:16 UTC
Borsuk said :-
Ian Soady said :-
You (notice I didn't say we) could have a BAT team.......

Was actually thinking the same myself Ian.
18/08/2017 12:23:07 UTC
Ian Soady said :-
I'll sponsor you to the tune of a cup of tea and a mars bar each at the finish......
18/08/2017 13:49:07 UTC
Ren - The Ed said :-
So let me get this straight - you both believe a BAT team would be a smashing idea so long as you don't actually have to do anything? Meanwhile I have to ride around the route and / or put together a team and ride around all in exchange for a brew and a Mars bar? I don't even like Mars a Twix on the other hand.
18/08/2017 22:30:15 UTC
Ian Soady said :-
As I pointed out, I've already done it 5 times. Time to give others a chance......

Go on Ren, let's see what you're made of. One year when I was riding in the event, there was at least one Honda Step-thru doing the whole route, so you should find it a doddle on a 125.
19/08/2017 09:21:21 UTC

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