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Ren - The Ed said :-
Right - OK guys - getting a shopping trolley is easy. Not getting caught for shopping trolley theft might be a tad more difficult. How do you "wring" a shopping trolley to the point where it becomes legitimate?

What speed do you think shopping trolley wheels are rated up to? Typically they'd be expected to achieve maybe 4 or 5 mph at a push, I'm wondering how they'll get on at 70?

Do you think I'd be better off fitting the trolley to the 125 or the 500? If I go for the 500 is it better as a side car or a trailer?
13/03/2018 13:05:15 UTC
Ross said :-
Be careful where this could lead! ;-)

Ren??
13/03/2018 15:26:36 UTC
Ren - The Ed said :-
Much to Sharon's angst I already receive most of my clothes for free off various friends. I already live in a hovel. Frankly I am but one shopping trolley and a shower away from being the gentleman pictured.

There is no hope for me, Ross has already seen my future. Unless of course someone out there wishes to give me about £500,000 pounds. Then...then I'd buy a new pair of pants and put the heating on. Low. Really low.
13/03/2018 15:37:04 UTC
sourpause said :-
I have enjoyed reading the travel stories here. When touring how do people navigate in unfamiliar areas - GPS/phone or paper maps?

I like the idea of touring through quiet backroads without being reliant on electronic gadgets to navigate. But on the other hand I don't want to stop every 5mins to look at a paper map.

Any tips welcome!
18/03/2018 10:37:31 UTC
Ian Soady said :-
It depends what you want to do.

If you just have a general idea of detination and direction there's a lot to be said for a map in the tank bag and just following the front wheel, taking what look like interesting roads. I used to have a compass on my Tiger 955i which was really useful but that bike had a plastic tank - I've tried on bikes with steel tanks and no good. Many years ago I did navigate across the centre of Turin just be keeping the sun on my left but I suspect I'm too risk-averse to try it now....

The advantage of a tank top map on a bike is that it's easy to stop by the side of the road and have a quick shufti. It's not generally a good idea to try to read it on the move.

On the other hand if you have a definite destination in mind and time constraints GPS is hard to beat. I have the Copliot app on my phone which seems to work fairly well.
18/03/2018 14:59:21 UTC
Rod said :-
If you do not want to use or rely on a GPS a map will do the job.
Like Ian I would use a tank bag with a clear pocket, but instead of placing the map into the pocket, I prepare a list of towns and villages along my chosen route the night before from the map, and add the road numbers as a belt and braces aid. I then place this list into the tank bag pocket to follow. About 2 miles before you reach a town start following the next town on the list to avoid town centres.
This method leaves you in total control of the types of road that you want to use, not the road preference pre programed into the GPS.
18/03/2018 15:37:56 UTC
Borsuk said :-
Like Ian I also use co-pilot most of the time with a paper map as backup. It's good in that the maps are stored on the phone and you are not using data all the time. If your data limit isn't a problem Waze seems a good app to download, it's free. Maps are live and traffic updates are from other users.
If I am feeling silly then I could take my magnetic compass, chronometer, barometer, thermometer, charts, almanac and sextant and spend 3 hours trying to work out where I am using sun sights. As my sextant is a marine one I may have difficulty finding a sea level horizon when inland but what the heck. The look on the faces of people passing by would probably be worth it.

18/03/2018 19:00:04 UTC
Ian Soady said :-
When I used to ride in the ACU/BMF National rallies I used a system similar to what Ren describes. I'd make a set of index cards, one for each leg of the route and put them in a home made holder with a light as the rallies involved riding through the night. Then on arrival at each check point I'd put that card at the bottom leaving the card for the next leg ready to use.

But of course that event needs preparation and there are time constraints (although not rigorous).

I take it nobody here's entered this year's event?
19/03/2018 09:36:31 UTC
Ren - The Ed said :-
OH Borsuk - that made me laugh!

For myself I have the best of both worlds. Quite often I'll navigate by just following the front wheel as Ian suggested. Otherwise I'll use proper maps to get my to the area I want to be in. Then - if absolutely necessary I'll use an app on my phone to get me right to the place I need to be.

It all depends. If I must be at place X at time Y then GPS and electronics are ideal. If I'm merely wandering then maps are just fine.
19/03/2018 12:27:53 UTC
Borsuk said :-
Ian.
I am hoping to enter this year. Have to see what the wife has planned for July and of course whether the DVLA and I can part amicably in April with a shiny new category to be added to my license. If everything melds together i hope to to the English National Rally.Though I will need to beef up the headlights on my bike if I do.
19/03/2018 20:25:38 UTC
Ian Soady said :-
My experiences were with a Norton Commando with Lucas electrics. Joe Lucas wasn't known as the Prince of Darkness for nothing!

I well remember feeling my way over the Pennines in the early hours of one morning and being followed by a car. I could see my shadow in my bike's headlight "beam"! I always made it a point of honour not to use motorways at all and some of the roads I found myself on were of the very rural persuasion.

You don't have to go for the full monte - there are daylight only options available. But if it's as it was when I did it, it will be fully subscribed by now. I would suggest that 500 miles in 24 hours may be a bit ambitious for someone who has recently passed their test (but not a problem for the likes of Ren....)


21/03/2018 10:07:45 UTC
Borsuk said :-
I don't intend to do the maximum Ian, 300ish miles shouldn't be beyond my abilities. It's more for the experience than the milage, haven't done anything like this with or without a vehicle since I left the Scouts I think.
I believe I have upgraded the headlamp bulb on my bike as far as I can. It is a lot better than it was originally, still the same wattage of bulb but xenon now instead of tungsten but it still leaves a lot to be desired. I intend to fit some spotlights to improve the main beam and also the dipped beam if possible.
I well remember Lucas Electrics from the old days, you can drive in the dark, you can drive in the rain but you can't do both.
21/03/2018 12:53:56 UTC
Ren - The Ed said :-
500 miles in a day - easy?!? I have done it in the past and I *could* do it again now if I absolutely had to. But I certainly would not choose to do it for fun.

This is a subject I've been pondering over as a blog post. Some riders (like Stephen Cooper of Iron Butt on a Scooter fame) think nothing of doing 1,000 miles in a day. I know plenty of riders who will cover 500 miles without a thought. Myself, well I'm happiest at 100 to 150 miles, I have no worries about 200 but anything more than that causes me to think hard about breaking up the trip.

I'll save the details for my post.
22/03/2018 10:28:06 UTC
Rod said :-
Daily mileage is relative to the bike and roads.
If you are on motorways on a fully faired large capacity tourer 500 miles is easy.
On a 125 on country roads; this is more of a challenge.
22/03/2018 11:22:11 UTC
Borsuk said :-
I just checked my work calendar and realised that I am onboard for July not my back to back so will not be able to take part in the NR. Though if anyone does, can they send me a copy of the blank route card thingy they issue and I can do my own road rally. See how well I would have done. I must admit my bike seems well suited to me, I have done 4 hours continuous riding on her a couple of times and felt fine at the end, very comfortable seat and the pegs are in just the right position for me.
23/03/2018 21:06:06 UTC
Ian Soady said :-
Part of the fun was actually plotting the route between the check points (no sat nav in the days when I did it).

I did actually write a program in BASIC to run on an Amstrad word processor(!) to calculate a route but eventually worked out it would take several million years to run. It's a more complex variant of the famous travelling salesman problem.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travelling_salesman_problem ...
25/03/2018 11:29:56 UTC
Henrik said :-
Ha, that scooter us far to big for Sharon, look at her feet :-)

Enduro-bike is better, not KTM like here, but the GS is actually low-seated they say


26/03/2018 13:31:10 UTC
Ren - The Ed said :-
Do you not think pink is Sharon's colour?! Sharon actually likes being a feminine lady but I think the image above is just a little too much even for Sharon. Despite my explanations about the advantage of scooters over motorcycles Sharon definitely absolutely would not entertain the idea of riding one.

Personally I think the pink scooter might be better suited to myself.
26/03/2018 17:21:34 UTC
Henrik said :-
Nahhh, not pink, your right, not white, and not yellow, but I can only guess

Her color MIGHT be black, or dark-blue, dark-purple, dark-red,...

Don't like Scooters, and don't like choppers, but only the high types :-)

Hmmm, a challenge, good that the green Kawa is usable,.. seems a fine bike

No Ren, not you on a pink scooter, there is no way back from there :-)
26/03/2018 19:25:33 UTC
Henrik said :-
:-)


26/03/2018 20:53:02 UTC
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