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Henrik said :-
Machines became larger, becourse mankind became larger, much larger

So seems logical

Few generations 10 inches or so ,.. can se it in my old house

Only problem, they should be even larger,. (higher)

My hight 1.83 cm is normal in DK ,.. most MC's feels like from the toystore
02/09/2018 01:46:54 UTC
Ren - The Ed said :-
Sorry there's been no updates or new posts this week. I'm afraid Sharon has kidnapped me and is holding me against my will in a static caravan in Devon. The torment is nearly over and I can return to the joys of working next week.
13/09/2018 21:31:30 UTC
NigelS said :-
WHAT A GREAT SITE! So glad I found BAT - seems friendly and good humoured and totally free of rude people and trolls! I read some comments about 'age marketing' in one of the posts about Sharon's Kwacker 250 explaining how manufactures aim certain bikes at different sectors. Well, I don't know where I fit in as I'm 70 and just bought a 17 year old's bike . . . however my wife will tell you my mental age hasn't actually progressed at all over the intervening decades! If it is of interest I'll put up a full review in the next week or so.

Fat Old Man on a very small motorbike
14/09/2018 07:14:45 UTC
Ren - The Ed said :-
Remember NigelS men don't grow up our toys just cost more.

We aim to keep things clean and relatively friendly here. We're all entitled to our opinion but we don't need to be rude about anyone else's.

If you'd like to review your rather smart looking Benelli then drop me a line ren@bikesandtravels.com

Now you be careful on that bike, I'm not sure it might be a tad too tall for you.
14/09/2018 19:58:54 UTC
Henrik said :-
Hi Nigel ,.. we got these small Benellis in DK also, great fun-factor I guess, it seems to fit you well, I look forward for the review :-)
15/09/2018 19:57:33 UTC
Jim said :-
Hi All - have had a great time over the last couple of days reading this blog. I’m new to biking at 53, just completed my CBT and have got myself a CBF125. Hoping to spend some time in the saddle on fine days over the winter and do DAS in the spring.

Here my trusty steed at Elie, on the East Coast of Scotland.


20/09/2018 11:44:36 UTC
Ren - The Ed said :-
Evening Jim. I'm a little dishevelled after returning from a 70 mile ride in the tippling rain on my own CBF125. Cor blimey it's a bit rough out tonight.

I had to google Elie - I hope I got the right place just south of St Andrews? Looks lovely, bet it's not like that now.

Welcome to Bikes And Travels (BAT). Now don't go thinking you have to rush to get that DAS done, you'll be just fine on that CBF125 until the time is right. As for fine days - we've had a great summer this year but gosh only know what next year will bring. Make the most of the fine days but remember you're not made of sugar. A little rain (or a lot if you're determined) won't spoil a good ride.
20/09/2018 20:25:02 UTC
Jim said :-
Thanks for the welcome, Ren. Yes, Elie is south of St Andrews. My route was from Cupar to Upper Largo, Elie, Pittenweem, Anstruther, Crail, St Andrews and back to Cupar - a very pleasant trip round the East Neuk of Fife. Luckily enough the photo was taken a couple of hours before I wrote the post - here on the East Coast we tend not to get much rain. Re the fine days, it’s not that I mind getting cold and wet, it’s more that I have literally no idea how the bike will behave in the wet. So far I’ve done about 600 miles since passing the CBT, all of them dry. I’ve been pretty tentative in the corners, proceeding on the basis that if I approach slower than I would in my car, and aim to exit faster, I should be OK. All well so far, but I’m certainly not exploring the limits of the machine yet.
21/09/2018 06:47:37 UTC
Rod said :-
Hi Jim, That's a nice looking bike.
Your bike will behave fine on wet roads, don't be afraid of riding in the rain. Take a little extra care at roundabouts as they tend to get greasy when wet, and be easy on the brakes (brake a little earlier) and gentle on the throttle, and most important, just relax and do not tense up when riding.
As for exploring the limits of the machine! I do not know many motorcyclists which actually explore the limits of their bike.
Just enjoy the ride at your pace Jim.
21/09/2018 18:21:22 UTC
Jim said :-
Thanks for the reply, Rod. I’m sure more confidence will come; I’m not looking to set the heather on fire, just to keep up with the traffic and not hold everyone up too much. Not that traffic hereabouts is much of a problem - here’s a pic from this evening’s excursion.


21/09/2018 20:18:01 UTC
Ian Soady said :-
" proceeding on the basis that if I approach slower than I would in my car, and aim to exit faster, I should be OK. "

Why do you think you should be exiting faster?

Rod's advice is good. Remember that if you approach the "limits" you only have to get one thing slightly wrong (or circumstances change) and you're outside them, which may be a painful lesson.

Racers explore the limits as that's how they win. But they fall off often - but usually in fairly safe circumstances. No vehicles coming the other way, street furniture, gravel, diesel on the road etc.....

After over 50 years of riding I confess I don't know where the limits of my bikes are. What I do know is that I never get near them.
22/09/2018 09:20:32 UTC
Jim said :-
Thanks for the reply, Ian - sound advice. My post wasn’t terribly clear; I’m not talking about exiting exiting faster than I would in my car, it’s just that the advice my instructor gave me was that the slowest part of a corner should be the entrance, and that you should aim to accelerate out of the corner, provided that it’s safe to do so. Like you, I’ve absolutely no intention of finding the limits of my bike - it’ll just be nice to get my experience and confidence up to a point where I’m not slowing down quite as much as I am just now.
22/09/2018 12:35:55 UTC
Rod said :-
In general terms your instructor was correct.
My approach to cornering is this (this will surely open the shoot Rod down season lol).
Try to do all of your braking while the bike is upright when entering the corner. The two reasons for this are that you are asking the tyres to cope with the cornering forces when cornering, and holding the brakes into the corner will reduce the tyres ability to grip the road. The second reason is to settle the suspension before the corner, as the suspension rebounding in the corner can upset the bike handling and reduce tyre grip.
When you have finished the braking stage lean the bike into the corner, the faster you go, the more lean angle you will require.
When you can see the exit of the corner (usually just before the apex) apply gentle throttle, so the remainder of the bend is taken under acceleration.
This acceleration through the corner will again settle the suspension and aid the handling of the bike, making it feel more stable.
22/09/2018 16:03:46 UTC
Jim said :-
Thanks for that useful advice Rod. It’s a beautiful morning here in Fife, so I’m heading out to put it into practice!
23/09/2018 06:09:15 UTC
Ian Soady said :-
Hi Jim.

Yes, I misunderstood as I thought you meant exiting faster than you would in a car....

What Rod said is spot on. What he didn't mention is the use of counter steering. In brief, this uses a push (or pull) on the handlebar to initiate the lean. To turn right you push the right bar or pull the left (both quite gently to start with).

Most of us actually do it without realising but being aware of it as a conscious technique and making it second nature is very useful.

There's loads of stuff out there - try

https://www.therevcounter.co.uk/threads/35931-counter-steering?highlight=counter+steering

and


http://the-ride-info.blogspot.com/p/cornering.html
23/09/2018 09:28:52 UTC
Upt'North said :-
First day of Autumn, damn why can't summer last forever.
Although it's at least been a good one for most.
I thought I would post a picture of our summer jaunt to the Dolomites in Italy. That's if I can, here goes!
Upt'North.


Dolomites in the summer.
23/09/2018 15:29:37 UTC
Upt'North said :-
+1 Ian, on counter steering. It's a good skill to master/adopt/etc.
I prefer to pull. No sniggering at the back!
Pulling is smoother in my experience, likewise when driving a car ( sorry I said car) if turning to the left raise the left hand slightly and pull down on the wheel, it'll be smoother than a babies bott!
But yes it's a great skill to learn and no quicker way to turn quickly should the need arise IMO.
Good luck.
Upt'North.
23/09/2018 17:19:40 UTC
Ren - The Ed said :-
There's a million and one ways to approach a corner. The best advice I would offer is do it well within your level of comfort! When you've a few 10s of thousands of miles under you belt safely then you can start to play with counter steering and corner apexes and powering out etc etc.

I'd say it's best to focus on learning to ride and learning the bike first of all.

Reading this thing with counter steering, road positioning, braking, apexes and the like if any of you actually rode with me you'd have a field day pulling my riding apart.
24/09/2018 08:10:34 UTC
Upt'North said :-
Ren, agree completely, but no one told me about counter steering for donkeys years, although I was probably already doing it. That's the beauty and problem with the WWW it's all out there.
Re. cornering one thing you will never go wrong with is the rule,
"SLOW IN, FAST OUT", if you go in too fast it will either end badly or slow your exit.
Only just found this site and it seems to be just fine and dandy, thanks to you both for your time and effort. Love your bad language rule too, there's a time and a place and this isn't it! The time would be when you've gone into that corner too quick.
Keep up the good work.
Upt'North.
24/09/2018 14:01:01 UTC
Jim said :-
Thanks everyone for taking the time to keep a novice right. Had 3 hour-long rides in the last couple of days and I’ve been trying counter steering to initiate some lean. It works (obviously), but seemed counter-intuitive at first, until I realised that it was almost that just thinking of pulling / pushing was enough to get the bike doing the right thing. Also, and this may sound bizarre, I found that my ‘trigger’ for beginning the turn was a slight shift of weight from one cheek to the other, so to speak. (Probably a good time to admit that I’m heavier than the bike, so that’s not an inconsiderable shift). Didn’t realise I was doing it until I was trying the counter-steering and really thinking about what was going on.

Anyway, happy to report that confidence continues to improve - no longer am I creeping round corners as if they’re booby trapped, but can now give pensioners in electric chairs a run for their money - onwards and upwards!
24/09/2018 19:37:48 UTC
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