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Upt'North ¹ said :-
Here's a thought, why the f'in hell don't manufacturers provide an electrical accessory block where it is required?

22/05/2023 21:11:45 UTC
Ian Soady¹ said :-
The combination of tall bikes with short legs are fine till you find yourself on an off-camber neeeding to put the lower foot down. With a light bike not too much of a problem but a fully loaded heavy machine can soon prove a problem.....

23/05/2023 10:00:49 UTC
Ren - The Ed¹ said :-
Does the WeeStrom have an electrical accessory block Upt? Well MY CB500X has an accessory block in the fairing AND under the seat. So there. BUT to any CB500X owners - the accessory block in the fairing is somehow tied into the LED lighting unit and putting high powered items in there can fry this. I don't know the details but do some research!

Ian Soady - yes we've all seen the videos of various short folks managing quite deftly some much larger machines but I personally wouldn't want to be "doing battle" with a big bike on a gravel car park or a back country lane. My 500 is a comparatively small machine and I can still get caught out - see my Oh Sugar! post :)

24/05/2023 08:09:10 UTC
Upt'North ¹ said :-
I'm not aware of any Ed, that's not to say they ain't there but as an electrical idiot I just followed Garmins instructions.
"In motorcycle installations it must be wired directly to the battery".
The bike has its tank back on but not all the plastics as it will be having the headlight adjusted whilst accessible at Berwick-upon-the-Tweed this morning.
I would think there will be some wiring in there somewhere for Suzuki aux lights if fitted.
I started it up and saw the mileage (?) had jumped from under 6K to over 9K? Hmmmmm pffffffftttttt. I decided tea and choccy biscuits were required for that dilemma, the chocolate did the trick it had reset to KM's. Pffffffftttttt.
I will hopefully button it back up today and new tyres next week, maybe.

24/05/2023 08:57:08 UTC
Ren - The Ed¹ said :-
"I started it up and saw the mileage (?) had jumped from under 6K to over 9K?" HAHA!

I'll add a link - but you may recall I flattened Sharon's battery on The Mull Of Kintyre. After jump starting I sent Sharon out to put a few miles on the bike and give the battery a charge. While riding she was most impressed! The bike was accelerating rapidly and barely cruising at 60. She also noticed - keeping up with the car ahead - that the locals go everywhere at 90mph!

Of course her speedo was showing kmh not mph.

24/05/2023 10:38:33 UTC
Ian Soady¹ said :-
I can't see any logical reason why it needs to be connected direct to the battery and would never make such connections (unless fused and preferably switched as well) myself despite Garmin's instructions.

24/05/2023 10:54:04 UTC
Upt'North ¹ said :-
Yes Ian, your thoughts were mine, but it does come with its own inline protection device.

24/05/2023 12:53:45 UTC
Upt'North ¹ said :-
After Tim the Tester saying the dip beam was high last month, I decided to run up to Berwick-upon-the-Tweed this morning before I put all the plastics back on to adjust the headlight.
But here's a question for all you clever people, each beam has its own left and right and up and down adjusters. This is where I get confused....again....why? If the beams x 2 are flat, which they are, why do you need to adjust it left or right, it makes no sense and the beam tester can only say it's flat and not where it's aiming left or right?
Is it a Suzuki'ism, another Suzuki'ism? Plus Timmy Tester said the main would normally end up in the right position because the dip was in the right position, but not in this case.
The good news is that it'll pass the mot next year without a "it's a bit high".

24/05/2023 13:03:45 UTC
Snod said :-
ROD - not a problem of either clutch nor gearbox, just ("JUST"!!) a clutch spline lube. I've not done this before and frankly it's every bit the nightmare I hoped it wouldn't be. I took the clutch apart too just to check how much was left and it's fine so now I have to buy a special tool just to put it back together. A special tool that Motorworks are being slow to send, along with other bits I've broken in the process. The exhaust was in a right state..

24/05/2023 21:01:06 UTC
Upt'North ¹ said :-
Ian further to the Garmin write up, there little box of tricks on the live feed includes a 2 amp resettable fuse. The instructions are not to fuse in addition to this but I may be tempted to put a 3 amp fuse nearer to the live on the battery, I'm thinking it's belt and braces and it would be a quick reset if required without dismantling battery terminal screws etc.
I'm still thinking.....

25/05/2023 16:58:29 UTC
Ian Soady¹ said :-
I don't see how a 3 (or my preference may be a 5) amp fuse could cause any problems at all. Just don't tell Garmin or they'll void your warranty.

26/05/2023 16:08:46 UTC
Upt'North ¹ said :-
Surely not!
A warranty that's worthless, that'll be a first.
I haven't checked what the draw is yet, I was guessing at 3.

26/05/2023 18:45:37 UTC
nab301 said :-
@ Glyn , I bought a low mileage '98 Deauville back in'08 and initially was impressed although it nearly had me off on the way home from purchase (on a wet roundabout) . Something I put down at the time to the mixed tyre selection that was fitted . There was a lot of weight involved mainly when manoeuvring in confined spaces and onto the mainstand. The problem with the weight was the rear bias hence slippery roads or gravel had the front end wanting to tuck. The seat is quite broad too so could be a problem for shorties.
I never rode the 700 version but it's even heavier.
Despite all the above I did a lot of mileage on my Deauville and had many really long days in comfort . I finally decided to move it on when after fitting a set of tyres ( of which I fitted many to the Deauville) I rode off from home reciting the mantra, new tyres , new tyres what the ! I'd dropped it like a sack of spuds 150mtrs from home!
I did briefly have a Transalp 650 afterwards which was lighter and had better weight distribution consequently imo handling much better but the peg position made my hips sore and my one was heavy on petrol and less powerful than the Deauville... It also had tubed tyres which can be a no no for some.

27/05/2023 12:14:41 UTC
Upt'North ¹ said :-
Thanks for the reminder Glyn.
New tyres will be affixed to The B this week. (Should I change the oil too?)
It's about time they're 6 years old. They're horrible but not slippy.

27/05/2023 13:08:57 UTC
nab301 said :-
"Upt'North ¹ said :-
Here's a thought, why the f'in hell don't manufacturers provide an electrical accessory block where it is required?"

Strangely , my '18 Dl250 has an accessory socket beside the headlamp... rated @36w ie not very much

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27/05/2023 13:24:21 UTC
Glyn said :-
So I've got the Briggs head cleaned up. Should I get it skimmed and then set about gas flowing and porting it. Takes me back to the Ford 1172 (E93A) engines when we were BRISCA racing so many years ago. The new gaskets arrived and we are therefore on the home straight I hope.
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27/05/2023 16:05:13 UTC
Upt'North ¹ said :-
Nigel, my 650 has a similar socket next to the tacho with a car style accessory socket. I could use the car charger to the USB on the back of the sat nav, but neither the socket or the USB would be waterproof and although I considered changing it to a locking marine socket and plug it all got very complicated with conflicting advice. In the end it was just easier to follow Garmins instructions. At least I now know how ALL the plastics come off.
But it would have been nice to plug an accessory lead straight into the front.

28/05/2023 09:29:27 UTC
Ian Soady¹ said :-
Glyn - a sheet of emery paper on a flat (glass or similar) surface should do the trick. I always use a very thin coat of wellseal on head gaskets despite people telling me I shouldn't and it works for me. Other people use a spray of silver paint but I've never tried it.

28/05/2023 09:45:29 UTC
Glyn said :-
Just done that Ian and, like you, I used a thin covering of sealant. It's mainly back together now and all I have to do is work out how the governor and butterfly springs fit on the carb. Unfortunately, they made about 20 variants of this set up.

28/05/2023 11:42:13 UTC
nab301 said :-
Glyn , that's good news , so the crank was ok then. Any further thoughts on the failure , If it has no oil pump then presumably the previous owner ran it low on oil?

29/05/2023 17:07:40 UTC

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