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Confidence - Is It Determined By The Size Of Your Bike? Ian Soady said :-
"it's all rather pathetic when you see them paddling them around trying to park or manouver their behemoths."

I did really fall foul of this once on the Tiger. I was in the depths of France and found a nice little hotel in the Morvan region. The receptionist directed me to the parking "just go down the lane behind the hotel" she said. I did that and found myself in 10cm deep gravel which was slithering every way as the slope got steeper and steeper and the walls started closing in. And it was a dead end.....

I couldn't get off and turn it round from the side as my feet were just sinking in the gravel. Tried the side stand and exactly the same. So I had to shuffle backwards and forwards astride the bike and do a 20-point or so turn before I could extricate myself. I have rarely been so exhausted in my life and came very near to just letting the thing fall on its side. Of course there was no-one in sight to help.

Now if it had been a 125 or even a 150 MZ.........

I think it was the same trip when I found myself on a minor road again covered with the dreaded gravillons. The French road repair crews seem to just strew these liberally all over the surface. I was tiptoeing along with the Triumph squirming and slithering when I saw in the mirror another bike approaching from behind.

It was a teenage girl on a scooter - helmet on the back of her head, pink cardigan flapping in the breeze and (though I can't swear to this), a Gauloise drooping from the corner of her mouth. And she slalomed past me as though I was standing still.

Confidence - Is It Determined By The Size Of Your Bike? Ian Soady said :-
However, having said all that, there was definitely something quite intoxicating about the way the Tiger accelerated. But I hardly ever wanted to exploit that, rarely taking it above 6,000 rpm, and certainly never needed to.....

Confidence - Is It Determined By The Size Of Your Bike? Bob said :-
An excellent article.
I feel the motivating factor behind many people's choice of motorcycle is some misguided sense of machismo, they (men we're talking about here) think a big bike makes them a big man - it's all rather pathetic when you see them paddling them around trying to park or manouver their behemoths.
I too like exploring back roads, my XCountry at 143KG is the lightest modern 650 single available, it offers enough performance for motorway trips whilst carrying less weight than most 250CC bikes.
In my case my lower back dictates that I ride a light bike, I'm not going to give up green-laning and that means I do need to be able to pick up my bike without assistance.
At a bike meet I'll always go and talk to the chap or chapette who rode in on a 125 or 250, I find these people have more intereseting stories to tell, concerned as they tend to be with roadcraft and places visited rather than strutting around waving their metaphorical motorcycle enhanced phaluses at each other.

Confidence - Is It Determined By The Size Of Your Bike? Ren - The Ed said :-
I have on occasion have people say to me "Oh, the CBF125? So what you gonna get when you pass your test?" followed by "Oh, no L plates, well done! What you getting then?"

I smile and while wishing to burst out laughing I calmly as I can reply "I passed my test like 26 years ago..." This does rather confuse people.

I did have one salesman notice my CB500X, where upon entry to the shop he enquired "The X is a good bike for someone who's just passed their test - but I'm guessing you're looking to step up now?" Again this was another chance for me to smugly inform him I have a little experience on two wheels.

Part of Sharon's experience and reading the other comments is this mentality that we all must absolutely crave the largest and most powerful motorcycle ever! If you don't then you are either a big scaredy cat, just getting to grips with biking or some kind of hippy weirdo. I think we're all driven by different motives, hopes, experiences and ultimately that which is physically possible.

I've been watching Henry Cole's "The Motorbike Show". I'm not necessarily a big fan of Henry - he's alright and I like his stuff. Whatever my feelings I appreciate that his shows aren't *just* about speed and power and expensive stuff. It doesn't matter if it's an old 50 or a new 1200, he'll ride it and enjoy it.

And that's it. Be it a 2.3 litre Triumph of a cheap Chinese scoot if it makes you smile just ride it.

GDPR And Help! Ren - The Ed said :-
I've gone all shy now.

Cheers Graeme. I follow quite a few facebook site about motorcycle adventures and camping atc, including motorcycle camping. Oddly although I write and hope people read my missives I'm not much of a reader of other people's stuff.

In some ways that might be a good thing because it means I may have my own style, on the other side I could be missing some tricks. I've never been much of a reader. Sharon on the other hand reads EVERYTHING! She works in a library...

GDPR And Help! Graeme said :-
Lol, the kitchen sink comment was meant as a compliment :) Your adventures are "real" - thats why I like them. Funnily enough, I do google "motorcycle camping stories" and there's a Facebook group called Motorbike Camping. None of this however can match the quality of your site.

Confidence - Is It Determined By The Size Of Your Bike? Christopher said :-
Interesting article and comments: It's all about confidence, and the seat height and weight of the machine is key: There are those riders who feel (rightly or wrongly!) that so long as one foot can be put down on stopping, then that is fine.
I don't subscribe to that personally: I prefer a machine where i can get both feet down,more especially if contemplating taking a pillion/luggage, and there are the 'off camber' junctions, or chippings/gravel under foot to consider.
My CBF125 is fine in respect to the low weight/seat height issue, and riding on mostly 'C' class/unclassified roads in rural area's its a delight: I do have a 'maxi' scooter too, this has a 790mm seat height...which does not appear too daunting (initially!), though with the actual width of the seat taken into account, is a stretch to get both feet down,just about 'tip toes' in fact, hence this is being sold, and a Suzuki Bergman 400 sought instead! This model having a seat height of around 730mm,(and the earlier models i believe around 700mm), quite a difference, and far better confidence wise.

Confidence - Is It Determined By The Size Of Your Bike? CrazyFrog said :-
Absolutely right Ian and Ren.

My recently departed F650 BMW was the heaviest bike I have ever owned. I guestimate that it was getting on for 210Kg when fitted with it's luggage and even without I think it was probably over 200Kg.

As you say, you have to be aware of that weight all the time. In particular the BMW was very top heavy (there's a reason why the later ones have the tank under the seat!) and had an unnerving tendency to 'flop' into low speed turns. I ride bikes for fun, and I found that having to be aware of the weight, having to think beforehand of the road camber when parking at the side of the road, etc. etc. etc detracted from that enjoyment.

My little 150 MZ which weighs about the same as a push bike is a hoot to ride and you can take liberties that would be completely impossible on a bigger bike.

What finally decided me on selling the BMW was the realisation that it had very little performance advantage over my 500 Rotax MZ, largely due to the excess weight I suspect, and because the MZ is 50Kg lighter and has much sweeter handling, I much prefer riding it. Oh and it does 70mpg on a run as opposed to the BMW's 55mpg. Still, that's progress for you...

Confidence - Is It Determined By The Size Of Your Bike? Ian Soady said :-
It's not just short female riders who may struggle with excess weight and height. It happens to all of us as we get older and our muscles start to become more feeble. I spent many years chucking Norton Commandos and the like around as if they were pushbikes and riding my Enfield Bullet in trials (and by the time you've picked one of those out of the mud 10 times it has lost any pretensions of being a lightweight).

At the age of 55 I bought a Triumph Tiger 955i - one of the tallest bikes around, and it kept its substantial weight high. At first it was fine, although like you I did need to think about where I was going to put my feet when I stopped. However, as the years progressed I realised that I wasn't looking forward as much to getting out on it as I had been. Not the actual riding - once on the move it was fine. But it was the shuffling in and out of the garage, parking, traffic - any time when its bulk was starting to overpower me. Although this was probably as much psychological as physical it still dulled the edge.

So after 8 years or so I embarked on a programme of downsizing. I'm now on the Guzzi V50 which has a theoretical kerb weight of 160 Kg or so and a seat height of around 750mm. And that weight is carried low so the bike doesn't tend to topple (apart of course from the inadequacies of the typically Italian side stand).

The V50 will do me fine for the immediate future but I've no doubt that some time will see me moving down the size and weight scale yet further and I may yet end up with a Chinese 125 although that may be a step too far!

CBF 125 Alternator-Stator Problem Ren - The Ed said :-
Hi Ben. Welcome to the world of the dark arts.

If you look on any forum regarding this subject there are as many opinions as there are people. Some say "too much load" others "old engine oil" others "failing battery" others "excessive heat" others "crap build quality" others "general wear and tear" others "failing regulator/rectifier" and so on and so on.

So no, I don't know why your coils burned but I do know mine have burned out twice so far, once at around 30,000 and again at around 59,000. If you manage to find the everlasting coil please be kind enough to share them with us!

CBF 125 Alternator-Stator Problem Ben said :-
Today morning I tried to turn the bike on and it was dying all the time. I pushed it down the road, putted on second gear and finally managed to turn it on. Then I've heard a lot of explosions coming off my custom exhaust; at first I kinda liked it, but soon the bike died again, leaving me walking all the way back home.
Changed the battery and spark plugs, didn't make a difference. Then a friend told me it should be the alternator. Unfortunately he was right. The coils were all burned.
Do any of you know why they got burned?

GDPR And Help! Ren - The Ed said :-
KITCHEN SINK DRAMAS!!! I'll have you know these are real bona-fide wild adventures not some random bikers getting soaked so you don't have to! It's not easy being this inept, disorganised, random and useless you know, it takes a lot of work being a right pair of plonkers.

Seriously though - writing up the travel stories can feel like a waste of time. They rank very poorly on Google searches because no-one googles "stories of motorcyclists camping" do they. Also the stories don't get very many comments - I do understand why, the content isn't asking questions, proposing answers or stirring up opinions.

As such I'm glad to see that people do read them and hopefully enjoy them. I daresay I'd still write them even if no-one read them because I find they're a great way for me to refresh some very good memories.

GDPR And Help! Graeme said :-
Hi Ren, I enjoy the "kitchen sink" dramas that you often write about - you know the one's where you and Sharon are soaked through, standing in a puddle and your tent has blown away. They are fun - especially for us readers. Your series documenting your Welsh travels was very enjoyable. More of that please. Keep up the good work, Shsron too :)

Kawasaki Z300 MRA Double Bubble Screen Review Ren - The Ed said :-
I'm glad it's all panned out nicely for you Matty.

Maybe I could set up a business where you can hire a screen from me for a few days. That way you could try several screens over a few weeks to find the one that works best for you and your bike.

Hmmmmm. I can't see this being a get rich quick scheme...

Kawasaki Z300 MRA Double Bubble Screen Review Matty said :-
Hmm so I think that I have taken the easy route with my bike! I took the screen off completely and went for a run yesterday. First things first - the bike looked rather silly without a screen - but an fjr was never meant to be naked. At town speeds it felt alright - breezy but not bad. Doing 70 on the motorway however was a gym workout. The fairing I guess was acting like a mini screen anyway but it seemed all I could do just to hang onto the bike - my head and more than I had imagined my arms were being battered about. Funny thing is that on my old scooter with just a flyscreen I could do around 70mph with none of the issues. It just goes to show how individual the bike, rider position and speed affect things. Once back at home I put the original screen back on and tested that - on its lowest setting I am a happy bunny - it provides good body protection and my head is just above the wind flow. I guess my experiment has shown that things weren't so bad as I thought originally. Now I have a tall screen to sell on - but at least I don't need to buy anything further!

Auxiliary Tail Lights Again Ren - The Ed said :-
Hi Kevin. I'm not qualified to give you advice regarding motorcycle electrics...but you may find a suitable switched live wire somewhere behind the left side panel. The earth goes to the frame.

Auxiliary Tail Lights Again Kevin said :-
Hi, A good simple idea. I'm thinking of doing the same. Where did you connect the LED wires to ?

Test Ride Review Of The Suzuki Inazuma 250 - By Ren Withnell Henrik said :-
Rod, Ross, Ren,..

Thanks for the quick answer, and for digging out the essense far as possible

I agree with all, and only asked becourse I use Louis own 10/40 semi for the rest of my bikes, and it was tempting to just use the same all over the line

However for the reasons that Ross mentions, and due to the fact that the bike seems like something I will keep and care for, I have made a choice to use full-syntetic good oil in this case, an my choice is made: Motul 7100

Fiters, Motul-oil, and other things is already ordered

For my part "thats it", so I move on, and leaves the oil in the engine :-) ...

Kawasaki Z300 MRA Double Bubble Screen Review Henrik said :-

Thanks a lot for usefull feed-back, I have now decided to go for THAT model

Thanks also for your kindness, but not likely I will be in Kent anytime soon. I live in DK and SE, and touring totally dedicated to Norway, what this year maybe will be real both on the Zuma, and Car-trip,..

Be welcome here in DK/SE as well ;-)

Test Ride Review Of The Suzuki Inazuma 250 - By Ren Withnell Ren - The Ed said :-
Would...would you like me to put up a page to discuss this subject? This could go on for hours and hours and hours!

I'm teasing. Still...I might just put up the page.

Kawasaki Z300 MRA Double Bubble Screen Review Ren - The Ed said :-
There is a problem with creating an experiment to fit to your bike. You spend an hour or two sourcing the suitable materials. You spend another couple of hours making the first draft and fitting it. You spend another couple of days cutting, altering, adjusting then scrapping and restarting the project. Eventually you fall upon the perfect design.

Then...then you don't want to remove the scruffy hack-job construction you've created because it works so delightfully well. Then...then you realise that you're riding a motorcycle with an old piece of plastic barrel bolted to the front of your motorcycle. Then...then you realise despite your friends' disapproval you no longer care.

Welcome to my world.

Kawasaki Z300 MRA Double Bubble Screen Review Rod said :-
I believe that Ren is the expert at economy engineering, but a 25ltr plastic container would be a good starting point.

Kawasaki Z300 MRA Double Bubble Screen Review Matty said :-
I completely agree Ren with your comments on the hit and miss nature of buying and fitting a screen only to find it doesn't work for you - it can turn out to be an expensive game even if you can go through the rigmarole of selling a screen on. For my FJR1300 I am thinking of going to a sports screen - eg smaller than the original and seeing if that helps my cause. Maybe if I have a ride with no screen at all to have a sort of baseline from which to compare. I also wonder if it is possible to mock up a rough screen or two with some sort of plastic and do a bit of trial and error to see the difference - using that to home in on a size that suits before buying?! Now what havelse I got that I could use...

Test Ride Review Of The Suzuki Inazuma 250 - By Ren Withnell Ross said :-
As long as it meets the right spec' (10W40 API SG or higher) either is ok...and I think most branded motorcycle oils in semi or fully synthetic meet or exceed that spec' so you pays your money and takes your pick! The Inazuma engine isn't in a high state of tune so why would you need fully synthetic? On the other hand, small engines are often worked hard so perhaps fully synthetic? Hope that helps! ;)

Kawasaki Z300 MRA Double Bubble Screen Review Ross said :-
Henrik, That's the same screen I've got on my Inazuma and I'm very pleased with it. It takes the wind blast off my chest but doesn't seem to buffet my helmet about but it has changed the 'pitch' of the wind noise around my helmet...not better, not worse just a different noise! For context, I'm 5'8" and a bit (the 'bit' seems important to me! :)) The Puig screen seems one of the most popular screens for the Inazuma and, in my opinion, suits the bike well.

PS If you find yourself in Kent you're welcome to pop round and have a go on my bike! :)

Test Ride Review Of The Suzuki Inazuma 250 - By Ren Withnell Rod said :-
I use a semi synthetic 10W-40, but as Ren said you are opening a can of worms, as opinion is divided. I would just like to add that you should not use a car oil which has 'ENERGY CONSERVING' properties. This oil has an additive ( I think it is silicone ) which can affect the clutch on a bike, which uses the oil for the transmission as well as the engine.

Test Ride Review Of The Suzuki Inazuma 250 - By Ren Withnell Ren - The Ed said :-
OH my GOODNESS!!! Now you are opening a whole can of worms!

If you need an answer straight away play safe and go fully synth. Then...then we can have a year long discussion about whether or not it is necessary, whether or not to use car or motorcycle specific oil, whether or not you should change it daily, weekly, monthly, yearly or never, whether or not you use 10W-40 or 5W-30 and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on....

So that's TWO items we can put together. The story of your 'Zuma and the big old oil debate.

Carburettor Or Fuel Injection? Ren - The Ed said :-
Hi Paul.

Firstly you'd need to find a suitable carb. It needs to have the correct bore, flow rates and mountings. Then you'll need to sort out the ECU. The computer will be expecting various inputs like air flow and air temperature from sensors in the FI throttle body. I imagine you'd need a different ignition system with all the associated parts to make that work.

My CBF125 here in the UK is injected. I am informed that in India there is a version of my bike that has a carburettor. To install a carb on my bike I'd need the carb, the ECU (more likely a CDI) and the wiring harness to match.

It is possible - anything is possible. But it's not a simple task.

Kawasaki Z300 MRA Double Bubble Screen Review Ren - The Ed said :-
I think the problem with screens is you can't try before you buy! Every rider is different and each model of bike is different. So finding a screen that works with YOUR bike with YOUR size and YOUR personal taste or needs is nigh-on impossible.

You buy a screen, fit it and discover it's not right for your needs. You can't exactly take it back though. There's no manufacturing fault, it's not poor quality, it's just not right for you.

It could be argued you could buy it online, try it then return it using the distance purchase regulations. Thing is by the time you've unpacked it and screwed it all together I think a lot of online retailers would argue that the product was not returned in the same condition it was sent to you.


I guess the best you can hope for is to have a friend with the same bike and the same screen who's willing to let you test ride. Good luck with that...

Test Ride Review Of The Suzuki Inazuma 250 - By Ren Withnell Henrik said :-
Hi Ren ,.. will try to put something together, but might take a little time


Opinions on GW250 forums are diveded, but what oil-type for Zuma, half or full synthetic ?

(will do first service in a few days)

Carburettor Or Fuel Injection? Paul said :-
Can you transfer back to a carb and what does it take to do it if so.

Kawasaki Z300 MRA Double Bubble Screen Review Henrik said :-
Interesting Bob, I am also a little above 6 feet I guess, (1.83m), and our experiences seem to match, guess I was right when I said "is less is more?".

Like said my GS500 with the medium sized Puig Touring II was a PITA, while my KLE500, with its little "nose" seem to be a bit better than a naked bike

Guess for my new Zuma it will just be a little screen, just abut to cover some tablet-navigation etc ,... then I can make it fancy at the same time :-)

Kawasaki Z300 MRA Double Bubble Screen Review Bob said :-
Every faired bike have had has had screen that doesn't work for me.
I'm 6'2" so the problem is that my head is usually in the turbulence.

-There is a still bubble of air behind the screen, if you're small you'll be in there so that's fine.
-Above that is band of turbulence, if you're tall your head will be in that it's horrible.
-Above the turbulence is "clean" air, unaffected by the bike.

I find the only solution for me is a low screen at a very shallow angle. The air slips off the top of the screen and I set the height and angle so that the turbulence is on my shoulders, leaving my head in clean air. This relieves the pressure from the upper body but prevents buffeting of my head.

I do believe the performance increase claims, I added a screen to my KLX250 and it increased the sustainable speed by 5 to 10 MPH into a headwind.

That FJR1300 needs a shorter screen, not a taller one. I had similar on a Versys 650, it was defeaning above 60MPH. I ended up running it with no screen.

Long Term Honda CBF 125 Review Ren - The Ed said :- don't worry too much about hijacking posts here at Bikes And Travels. I am of the opinion that conversations turn off down random paths in real life so I expect them to do so here in the comments section.

Sharon on the other hand believes people come to read about the subject of the original post and wouldn't be interested in the random diversions the comments section often takes. It has been a point of contention in the past.

Buuuuuuuut! You'll all kindly note I'm always asking for contributions. Why? While this is presently Sharon and I's blog we don't want it to be just about us. In fact we'd love nothing more than for it to expand and involve many writers with varied interests and points of view. So if you have a something to say regarding motorcycling and it fits in with BAT's ethos (I'll have to put together what our ethos might be!) then send it to me :-)

Long Term Honda CBF 125 Review Fumbletrumpet said :-
Thank you Ian, Ren and Sharon for your feedback

It's very much appreciated - since you've been there, done it and ridden out the other side. (Yes, Ian, I did a 'round the block' Part 2 way back - failed it - but I love all the urban myth stuff about the examiner stepping out in front of the wrong biker for the emergency stop !!)

I'm also aware that I've slightly hi-jacked a topic about the (venerable ?) Honda CB(F)125(F), turning it into 'chunky old git wants fastest possible legal bike on CBT only without compromising his arthritic posture', leading onto 'strategy for actually (one day) getting a bike more suitable to my bulk' :) !!

So, as a PS that might gently (counter) steer back towards the Honda I'd comment that in many ways the CB 125 may actually tick more boxes than I'd initially imagined when it came to arranging insurance. I was staggered at some of the prices quoted to me as a faffed around phoning and web-form-filling-in to brokers trying to insure me to ride the Duke.

I've subsequently learned that any newbie (and having stepped off a KE100 then CB100N three year stint back in 1986 I hardly considered myself a newb ! - but in truth I am !) is considered a BIG risk in their first year of biking. Things will settle down once a year plus of NCD kicks in I'm told. Actually passing the Mod 1 & 2 will help as well I'm told. But one broker did comment that the premium would've been cheaper if I'd been riding a "different sort of bike". By which I interpret he meant "the Duke's a bit quicker/sportier, attracts a certain sort of rider (maybe) and therefore riskier (as an insurance statistic)". Maybe he meant scooter ? But just maybe he meant 'commuter' ??

My starting out thought was (before quote seeking) that with some 15 years of car NCD to my credit I'd get a bit of a leg-up, so to speak (it's quite a tall seat on that Dukey). But not with most insurers it seems. Finally found (if anyone's in the same situation) that the RAC have a drop-down which asks about your car claim history and this seems to then have been reflected in their offered premium (which was at least affordable for me - not approaching a grand as with many others !!). But the person at the LV call centre (I'd insured a car with them up until end of January) I spoke with did suggest (at least infered) that it was the Duke (rather than my lack of experience alone) which was pushing the premium up. So, if I'd have chosen the more sensible Honda, perhaps, I might not have been so shocked by the insurance quotes. Maybe.

I'll sign off (for a while - waiting to pick up the bike now, but then have a few days away immediately after so won't be riding for a week or so) by giving a (possible) point to the Honda for its dependable sensibility (which in an age of risk aversion and general un-sureness is a very valuable 'thing')

Happy, safe, (dry ?) riding to you all.....

CBF 250 Review - In Response Ren - The Ed said :-
I'm glad you guys could help as I had nothing useful to contribute...

Kawasaki Z300 MRA Double Bubble Screen Review Matty said :-
Arrgh screens - they are the bane of my biking life right now! I have a Yamaha FJR1300 and with the original screen on its lowest setting the wind blast at moderate speed hits my shoulders square on - at 70mph it hits my helmet and ends up really giving my head a bashing - enough to cause a headache. If I raise the screen (the bike has an electric adjust) then the blast reduces but my head still gets buffeted around. I have just mounted a larger touring screen which seems to help - but only then at motorway speeds if I can tuck my head behind it a bit - but then I find myself looking through the screen rather than over it which does nerve me a bit. Maybe less is more and I try a small screen or maybe another helmet? I loathe having to spend money sorting this out without a clue about what might actually be the best solution!

CBF 250 Review - In Response Ian Soady said :-
I have one like that on my Guzzi and it fits quite well after some fettling.

Why Do You Ride? Dogger said :-
I started riding at 16 which was way back in 1976. Like many I stopped in my twenties when family came along. I started riding again when illness changed my life, not knowing if it was still possible but needing to get something in my life that made me forget pain. After more than twenty years a motorcycle still has the power to make me feel good. I wanted to follow your lead on a z250 as it offered all I wanted, except the saddle, can't lift my leg so I ended up with a little Suzuki Van Van 200. Fabulous little bike and it allows me,as others have said to be in my own zone, the best stress release ever. Riding again has been like seeing through younger eyes which helps everything. You and Ren played a part in me returning to biking as your love of our shared passion comes through clearly in your posts. So for the freedom I now enjoy I attribute your enthusiasm as part of the motivation for me to actually act on something I had thought about for years.

CBF 250 Review - In Response Rod said :-
I have had a quick look for a universal luggage rack.
Have a look at the link :-

CBF 250 Review - In Response Rod said :-
Hi Louanne, It looks like a universal luggage rack will fit on your bike. Most Universal racks come with adjustable fixing points, and may just need a couple of spacers or washers to give a good fit.


Kawasaki Z300 MRA Double Bubble Screen Review Keith m said :-
Yeah. I was very surprised at the difference such a small screen could make. If you look at MRA website they talk about the effectiveness of their double bubble screens and as I said in my review it works really well for me.

CBF 250 Review - In Response Louanne said :-

I have a cg125 nostalgia model and I cannot find a luggage rack for it anywhere!

What sort of size/fit did you have on your one pictured above? As my bike was modelled on this and looks fairly the same.

Many thanks,


Royal Enfield Himalayan Test Ride Review Henrik said :-
None of the new "adventures" are off-road, but some are very decent travel-machine, some with bigger tanks, and better position etc.

The only one that comes near something off-road is CRF250, and only very very partly.

Its all style and wannabe

DL250 strom and the Royal Enfield are 100 pct road-travellers also IMHO

Their weight versus power being much on par as far as I remember, so maybe an analogy is not that far out

Himalayan is not available directly in DK, some of the others in same range are though, and the pricing is terrible, like 70-80 pct more than the little v-strom, (being already to expensive imho).

I dont believe they will sell any Himalayan here, and thats likely why we dont see them at stock at all in the first place.

Not even the import believes in it, so to say

Royal Enfield Himalayan Test Ride Review Ren - The Ed said :-
It's another one of those personal things Rod. While I myself will take in a few farm tracks and the odd trail I'm certainly no bona fide off roader type. However I know quite a few adventure bike owners who do go quite seriously off road.

So as ever it'll be horses for courses.

Kawasaki Z300 MRA Double Bubble Screen Review Rod said :-
I agree with Ren. Screens are a personal thing.
On my full dress tourer other riders were fitting a flip up screen to the top of the standard screen. At only 5'4'' (hobbit) I could ride at 100mph with the visor up and always found the screen very good.

Royal Enfield Himalayan Test Ride Review Rod said :-
Sorry Ren, I thought you were saying that with the lower price of the Enfield, the BMW riders would be looking at changing to an Enfield.

How many Adventure bike riders actually take their bikes off road?, and if they do how many use the full potential?

Kawasaki Z300 MRA Double Bubble Screen Review Ren - The Ed said :-
I think the problem with screens is that every rider is different. Rider X says screen Y is absolutely fabulous and brilliant and amazing. Then rider Z says the same screen on the same bike is blooming awful.

Maybe the riders are different heights? Maybe they have different helmets? Maybe they sit differently? And so on and so on.

Kawasaki Z300 MRA Double Bubble Screen Review Henrik said :-
Some are claiming almost unveliveable fuel-savings also, and increase in top-speed, with relatively small screens

While with a medio screen like Puig touring II what I was experiencing on my GS500 was more like just a PITA kinda turbulense added

Don't know what to believe anylonger, I am on the market for a screen also, but confused

Maybe less is more ?

Royal Enfield Himalayan Test Ride Review Ren - The Ed said :-
I did not mean the BMW was a competitor - I mean that the Enfield is poles apart from the big BMWs. Adventure bikes have been getting bigger and more powerful and indeed more expensive. Then along comes Enfield with an less powerful and better priced machine. If the Enfield proves to be a big seller it will affect the whole market. Maybe we'll see fewer big sill models and more sensible real world models.

The Strom 250 and the Enfield - hmmmm. I see the Enfield as being more dual-sport and off road capable. I'd be interested to see what off road skills the Strom has.

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